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You're an idiot
Anonymous person a@a.com

Perfect said about Hong Kong and Shenzen. Well done!! ...
Anonymous

Help, I'm married to a Chinese girl
Dino

I think you are an idiot to marry a chinese.
chinkbuster chinkbuster@bunkerbuster.com

Dino go to hell
gg GG@yahoo.com

chinkbuster, hell like you. Go ASAP
GG GG@YAHOO.COM

Racist??
Matt Stephens

Dino is OK.
Yuhong Guo ygweah@yahoo.com

White supremist is a better term
ProudlyAnEarthlin j199j199@hotmail

A counter-attack: Why Poms (UK) and Pakistans suck.
nobody spamspamspam@hotmail.com

Regarding the earlier 'anonymous' post
Mr Anonymous

Mr Anonymous: What an addled mind you have
Anonymous person

re: A counter-attack: Why Poms (UK) and Pakistans suck.
Matt Stephens

Why is this article on this site?
Bill Tomlinson nospam@nospam.com

re: Why is this article on this site?
Elliott

summary
joe

gg gg @yahoo, hell like you. Go ASAP
stinky

Disagree with proud earthling
john anonymous@youknow.com

I feel sorry for your wife...
Tim timmyruss@yahoo.com

Racist?
Michael Watkins

Chinese people all know kung-fu
Jackie Chan jchan@kungfu.com

China is dirty!
American and Damn Proud!

Racists
Boober none@donthaveone.com

Stop being a bunch of politically correct weenies.
Brian F spam@hotmail.com

Humans are a cancer of this universe.
Sheredub Sheredub@hotmail.com

China dams Yangtze river
Joe Benya jbenya

Racism... bah
JY

He called it like he saw it
Joe

Most of the world smells bad.
Kevin

Meditate on this...
Spock logical@pon-farr

Open letter to programmers everywhere
Tony Testosteroni honkey@niggaplease.com

Oh, and..
Gaylord Vokker apb3@earthlink.net

Heathens Pagans and dirty dirty sluts
Choad Master Lick@myballs.org

funny!
monkeyhateclean

RE: China is dirty
Rebecca Smith Rbsmith@yahoo.com

Bow, subjects.
Uncle Sam usa@usa.usa

Close minded
Ryan

There's one word for this whole thing...
anon anon@anon.com

this is retarded
emgee

ASIA is a different world
Fisting Foetus IM-NOT-GONNA-PACK-YOUR-FUDGE@fistyourmama.com

WHO'S WHITE?
fuko dinoflinstone@stonehenge.com

What the...?
JD

why the furore?
jimbo bones barneybones@swirve.com

nudge-nudge, wink-wink
joe ni8swimmer@yahoo.com

USA takes it in the ass just like China
George Bush george@in-the-ass.com

Let me get this straight...
James T. Kirk

NUKE PAKISTAN
PakKILL PAKKILLER@PAKISTANSUCKS.COM

Gwailo! You die now!
David Rettelman top10@rateshow.com

wow what an insightful article.
amazed1

Quit whining!
Chris

stay calm
borschwin forschwalker plastic_die@yahoo.com

You've got it all wrong...
ME noneofyour@damnbusiness.com

Social critique at its finest
david lopan david_lopan@hotmail.com

I LIVE IN SPACE
Testy McTesticle TESTICLE?@what.com

ahahahaha
Mr. Cattoir wazrspank@aol.com

Papal Bull XiXX
Pope of Texas blather@honkydiatribesRUs.com

No Cap'n
Scotty scotty@enterprise.com

Here's to you, Dino
cdwitmer cdwitmer@spamcop.net

I second that motion
Seether webmaster@now.org

well done
nunyabidness

Sounds like Mexico City
Dave

Scotty...you peed in my drink.
James T. Kirk

Big American Penis.
Dick Dick@head.net

Drive down singleton Dave!
DICK Dick@head.com

Huh???
Relgion religion@kidsloveguns.com

Love Hong Kong, dig the Chinese
Wang Chung WangChung@everbodyhasto.com

my two cents
jen whatever@whatever.com

Damn Buncha Politically Correct Whiners
Mike mlkdh@yah.com

LOL, you guys are so silly
SpaceAce

Dont like em'either!!
MAD evenmadder@pissed.com

Nice article
Adam adam@NOshallimusCRAP.com

Communists need to eat better breakfast
Pinko

Brilliant
Attila na

Message from your God
GOD allpowerful@allknowing.com

Previous post
GOD allpowerful@allknowing.com

Let's face facts, shall we?
Truth eggs@ackley

The Dog's Bollocks
Hassie deariedearieme@hoptopchop.pop

I've been there. You're right.
joe n/a

I just laughed so hard...
Captain Spanky

Ho ho ho
Anonymous

This story is SO right on...
Kabloozie

Oh, and by the way
Kabloozie

My my my....
Sarah

Not Racist
Paul pennywise@hotmail.com

One man's perspective
dinomano dmano@hotmail.com

hey Pakistani guy
Irish bloke

Attention Irishman!
Fionn MacCumal legend@irelend.com

lmao
chinaman whatever@whatever.com

No see dog
Korean


The Messages


You're an idiot
You're a close-minded racist idiot who has no concept of cultural differences. You're review of your trip looked interesting from the title. But as I read further into your article, it was clear you should remain behind your keyboard and monitor. Venturing outside will only expose you to the real world for which you obviously are very much ignorant about.
Anonymous person a@a.com
whatever, whatever

Thu Oct 31 13:22:23 GMT 2002
Perfect said about Hong Kong and Shenzen. Well done!!
Anonymous

Thu Oct 31 13:47:13 GMT 2002
Help, I'm married to a Chinese girl
Someone better tell her I'm racist,
now that my cover has been blown.

There again she should have told me she was foreign, as I didn't realize. Oh what a fool I feel!


Dino
UK (And damn proud of it!)

Thu Oct 31 13:59:38 GMT 2002
I think you are an idiot to marry a chinese.
As a Pakistani I think Chinese are real scummy. Their food is awaful, thier women are slanty eyed and ugly. The men are junkies of one sort or another. Chinese food only appeals to western pallets because you guys eat yorkshire pudding and creamy haddock and such non-sense.

I think you are an idiot to marry chinese. I suppose compared to blood sucking engligh girls may be you are better off with scum sucking chinese girl - hey.

Good like till we invade England and China and convert you all into muslims.




chinkbuster chinkbuster@bunkerbuster.com
Karachi, Pakistan

Thu Oct 31 17:29:25 GMT 2002
Dino go to hell
Dino , rubbish, go to hell ASAP.



gg GG@yahoo.com
china, china

Thu Oct 31 18:50:55 GMT 2002
chinkbuster, hell like you. Go ASAP
chinkbuster chinkbuster@bunkerbuster.com
Karachi, Pakistan
Garbage ,go to hell ASAP

GG GG@YAHOO.COM
CHINA, CHINA

Thu Oct 31 18:52:31 GMT 2002
Racist??
I'm still trying to work out which part of the article was supposed to be racist. All Dino has shown is the open-mindedness to talk about cultural differences. "This is what my eyes showed me." I guess that's enough for some people to take offense.
Matt Stephens
London, England

Thu Oct 31 20:20:06 GMT 2002
Dino is OK.
Dino tells what he saw and it shows he is no Chinese. There are things (about traffic) which annoys Chinese people too but there are things he didn't like because of culture difference. He may prefer fat people in UK (more in USA) but like most Chinese, I find thin people more attractive. And for fatty food, Chinese find them delicious and are unlike most American who consume a lot without even realize it. Dino may not be noble but he doesn't seem to be a racist. Maybe if he stayed in Shanghai (my hometown) longer, he will like it more.
Yuhong Guo ygweah@yahoo.com
Chicago, USA

Thu Oct 31 22:13:18 GMT 2002
White supremist is a better term
When Dino criticised everything that is different from his culture in a patronising and demeaning way, he very much qualified himself as a white supremist (and they do marry chinese girls because they like to feel being superior and in control).
What really shameful is that, for a site like SoftwareReality to print such a culturally insensitive article. Racism is like punching someone, you can't say "it doesn't hurt as I'm only playing around and punch softly". It is not up to you to decide whether it hurts or not, but receiver of your attack.
Just image someone writes an article critising everything different about UK in the same way. I do challege the editor to publish it and see what kind of response is getting back from all you UK readers.

ProudlyAnEarthlin j199j199@hotmail
Australia

Thu Oct 31 23:07:21 GMT 2002
A counter-attack: Why Poms (UK) and Pakistans suck.
I don't like the way UK girls are so pale that they almost offer a ghostly reflection. I just don't like the way UK cars drive on the left hand side and so slow that they're almost like a bunch of grannies. I really hate the scummy way that the UK has more pubs than they have road crossings. In fact, I also hate the fact that the UK is now mixed with blacks and whites and just as the Michael Jackson song guess, "It doesn't matter if you're black or white" but what is that supposed to mean? I really hate the food I ate in London, as it tasted bland if you didn't add sauce to your meal of some kind. And going up north I only ended up eating meat, which is disgusting. Is there a place in the UK to go on Friday night which doesn't have some drunken maniac spewing up in front of you? I think you'd be more of an idiot to marry a Pakistani. They have all sorts of diseases.

This article wasn't meant to be racist. I've dated caucasian people before. HELLO? I guess I've been caught out. h0h0h0

--
A computer programmer.


nobody spamspamspam@hotmail.com
Mocking right back at you, From The World

Fri Nov 01 00:34:05 GMT 2002
Regarding the earlier 'anonymous' post
It is clear that you and the author of this post have some sort of relationship. The timestamp between your post and the author's reply is within 15 minutes of each other.

Not very smart, for the Anonymous poster that you aren't.

And by the way, this article was tasteless. For example, instead of saying "such and such girls are ugly" (which is a form of generalisation) you should've said "I find the girls here unattractive to _me_" where the 'me' emphasizes the opinion of the author and not a generalisation.

There are differences between hate speech and opinionated speech. The latter has the referral to "me,myself, I" whilst the other has the general form.

Learn to write better next time. For a bunch of English folks, I've seen better English being used elsewhere, even in China.

I wonder if you code as poorly as you write? No doubt you must think of yourself as a legend, however I, like most of the commentators here, disagree.


Mr Anonymous

Fri Nov 01 03:52:35 GMT 2002
Mr Anonymous: What an addled mind you have
Someone posts a message 15 minutes next to the author's?

Shock! Horror!

That's guilty in my book. Well, not exactly iron clad, but good enough. String him up!

You don't like his text=You think his text is bad=You think his code is bad. Oh boohoo, I'm sure he is heart broken that you impune his coding skills. Either that or he couldn't care less what some anonymous person has to think about his code viewed by the magic method of reading an article about China.

Weak. If you think English is spoken better in China you really have no experience of China, in other words more rubbish spoken by an idiot.

That's the trouble with feedback, people with nothing useful to say abuse it by talking absolute rubbish, making wild accusations.

Hate speech? Ha ha, funny I didn't spot any hate in there, just a list of observations and differences that people not from China might find
useful if they ever got there. If you think that is hate speech then you obviously have never had any real experience of it.

Anonymous person

Fri Nov 01 09:51:34 GMT 2002
re: A counter-attack: Why Poms (UK) and Pakistans suck.
Thanks, your message gave me a laugh. Your observations of English people (especially drunkards on a Friday night) are quite insightful. Well done.
Matt Stephens
London, England

Fri Nov 01 09:53:23 GMT 2002
Why is this article on this site?
Regardless of whether this article was racist, xenophobic, or culturally insensitive, what confuses the hell out of me is why this article is on this site.

Aside from mentioning being able to get a 'net connection a couple of time, this article has nothing to do with software development. I fail to see why this was a "programmer's guide". The author could have at least mentioned something about the programming scene in China.

Now I'm not saying that every article has to be hard-core tech here (the "emperor's new clothes" article was fine, for example). But the articles should at least have some tenuous connection to the subject of the site. Or is this site just turning into a personal blog.

Bill Tomlinson nospam@nospam.com

Mon Nov 04 21:01:45 GMT 2002
re: Why is this article on this site?
Why not?? It's good to show something a bit different every now and again. Anyway I enjoyed the article -- there was obvious sarcasm and irony in there. Great stuff!!

I dont think it's a "programmer's guide" as in "guide for programmers", but "guide written by a programmer" :)


Elliott

Tue Nov 05 10:23:33 GMT 2002
summary
chinese = dirty knees
joe
usa

Thu Nov 07 14:18:03 GMT 2002
gg gg @yahoo, hell like you. Go ASAP

You genius, go to hell ASAP

stinky

Thu Nov 07 14:22:48 GMT 2002
Disagree with proud earthling
Disagree with the comment that one cannot choose what hurts (or words to that effect). It is intent that often matters more than result. In this politically correct world, people take offense at just about everything. Well, some people who take offense have truly been harmed, but many are just whiners. Politically correct means never having to say I'm funny.
john anonymous@youknow.com
St. Paul, USA

Thu Nov 07 14:46:45 GMT 2002
I feel sorry for your wife...
...for being married to such a narrow-minded xenophobic arsehole. You're lucky enough to travel to Asia and all you want to do is spend time in internet cafes? You sad, sad man.

Foreigners act differently to us. They eat things we don't. They have different manners. Doesn't make them right, but it doesn't make them wrong either. Suggest you stay in your sad little room running your geeky website in future.

Tim timmyruss@yahoo.com
London , UK

Thu Nov 07 15:16:39 GMT 2002
Racist?
Look, I can see how much many of you are enjoying it up there on your high-horses, but you really ought to jump off for a few minutes and have a good look around.

I'm here, in China, and have been for some considerable time, and no matter how many glories the Chinese culture may have amassed since the Sons of the Dragon stepped on to planet earth, certain facts remain salient: 1) it really is nightmare on the roads. Horrifying, truly. It is not unusual to either witness crashes or be involved in them. 2) The food is very strange, and very often substandard. I don't mean substandard in some confused "I don't know that other cultures exist" way. I mean, shit. 3) Internet cafes are noisy, crowded, and -- without exception -- filthy.

These facts are recognised by every Chinese person I have met, and are common topics of complaint. I tell a lie: the only people who don't recognise these facts are those people who belong to an organisation called the Communist Party of China. So, you're in good company.

George Orwell famously used to worry about insulting the poor, but finally settled upon the difficult admission that they do indeed smell. Why? Because they're stupid? Lazy? Too ignorant to wash? No. Because they can't afford to buy soap.

Those of you who have complained are not telling Dino to not be a racist; you are telling him not to tell you the facts. But if we ignore them ... You figure it out. (It's a good thing he didn't tell you about the hospitals.)

Mike

Michael Watkins
Zhejiang, China

Thu Nov 07 16:11:13 GMT 2002
Chinese people all know kung-fu
You better watchit, we all know kung-fu and are coming to get you, you bad person. See you must understand you've left the door wide open for many people to show how much better people they are than yourself. They are all more righteous than you because they didn't write your article. They are "good" you are "evil", ha ha. I am also sleeping with your wife, ha ha.
Jackie Chan jchan@kungfu.com

Thu Nov 07 16:14:10 GMT 2002
China is dirty!
Let's face it, most of the world is piss-poor and filthy.

God bless America and our civilized allies. Hopefully George W. will be able to civilize the rest of the world shortly. I suggest proceeding in the following order: Iraq, Iran, Libya, Egypt, Pakistan, France . . . and so on. We should save Africa for last, in case we have any missiles left over.

American and Damn Proud!
US of friggin' A

Thu Nov 07 16:38:12 GMT 2002
Racists
Ahem. All of you except for the author suck. Thank you.
Boober none@donthaveone.com
Milky Way, North Pole

Thu Nov 07 16:40:56 GMT 2002
Stop being a bunch of politically correct weenies.
I thought the article generally gave a good idea about what the author experienced during the trip. Not all those experiences were bad.

If anything, he was restrained in the way he described things. I've travelled a bit and experienced differences in culture and accepted them.

Unfortunately, China is a shining example of a third world country with nuclear weapons. It has an amazingly interesting history but is such an unsafe shithole I would never even consider going there. Between the economic problems, rampant crime and health issues you might as well empty your wallet into the trash and breath deeply at a local clinic until you catch something interesting. Don't forget to eat garbage out of the trash bin.


Brian F spam@hotmail.com

Thu Nov 07 16:48:44 GMT 2002
Humans are a cancer of this universe.
You must be destroyed before you begin infecting other worlds.

Each and every last one of you life-consuming and shit-excreting addled monkeys.


Sheredub Sheredub@hotmail.com
Wotang, Lerap

Thu Nov 07 16:58:10 GMT 2002
China dams Yangtze river
So I guess they filled in the last chink.

Joe Benya jbenya
Little Rock, US

Thu Nov 07 16:59:24 GMT 2002
Racism... bah
First of all, I don't think this Dino guy is racist. All you people are getting worked up about nothing. So he doesn't like China very much, so what? It's not like he's someone in any position to do much about it, except to not go back.

Secondly, so what if he's racist? I'll tell you this, especially all you people crusading against racism towards the Chinese... the Chinese are just about the most prejudicial people around. Trust me on this one, I'm Chinese myself and have seen it all, though I don't share the sentiments. They hate blacks, whites, latinos, the Taiwanese, the Japanese, and each other.

I'm not saying that race discrimination is good, just that everyone needs to get a little perspective here. I'm Chinese, and I piss around with racial stereotypes all the time. Until we all figure out how to view race issues as irrelevant except as a subject of debate by close-minded people (and by that, I'm referring to both the "crusaders" and the bigots), we're going to be trapped in this ridiculous cycle of political correctness versus bigotry.

And for any actual, malicious racists out there, just remember that behind every scummy, greasy slanty-eyed, rice-breathing, kung-fu-expert Chink that wants to kick your ass and eat your dog... are 2 billion more of us.

JY
San Diego, CA, US

Thu Nov 07 17:00:41 GMT 2002
He called it like he saw it
If you all want to bitch at him for going to China and just writing as he saw things perhaps you should make your own way to another country and post your own experience there. He wants to judge a country by it's internet connection than I guess thats a good a way to judge it as any. Better than most who make judgements BEFORE going to see for themselves.
Joe
Maine, USA

Thu Nov 07 17:15:24 GMT 2002
Most of the world smells bad.
Asia ain't the US of A or even the UK. Food is strange, sewers are a luxury and soap can be a rarity. If you don't like it, you should confine your travels to Disneyland.
Kevin
Virginia, USA

Thu Nov 07 17:44:18 GMT 2002
Meditate on this...
We Vulcans have a saying..."Only Nixon could go to China." This, of course, is absolute crap, as when he got there, he found himself surrounded by not one, not two, but ten billion heathen chinee. Obviously, the saying should be ammended to "Only Nixon, several thousand tourists a year, 723 opium smugglers, innumberable free-range cat breeders, and 14 billion Chinese who actually live there could go to China." It lacks the zing of the original, but at least it is the truth. Now then, as to my own experiences with the yellow peril, I believe that James T. Kirk said it best when he said "That Sulu is one crazy bizznatch!" Furthermore...what? What do you mean Sulu was Japanese? Are you sure? Okay. Uh...forget that last bit. Now, on to the evils of communism. It was during an unfortunate incident where I was shipwrecked with Pavel Chekov on a remote planet for nine days. Sadly, the Pon-farr came upon me, and I was required to mate or die. When I was finished, I devoured Chekov with a fine Romulan ale. Much to my horror, I discoved that Pavel had peed in the blue liquor, causing me to assault his skeleton in ways never seen before or since. When they rescued me, I told them that Chekov was killed by a Gorn. Fortunately, the flat-ears think we can't lie, and I got away scot-free. Speaking of Scotty, he once peed in Kirk's synthale on Erogenous Prime, while Jim was in the bathroom. But I digress...Chekov was a commie, Chekov peed in my ale, ergo logic dictates that the Chinese, who are communists, will attempt to pee in my ale...or possibly my Coke, as the schoolyard classic would have us believe. I don't drink Coke, as my preference is Pepsi Blue. Hmmm...Romulan ale is blue, Pepsi Blue is blue...ARGH! Stay away from my Pepsi you communist dogs!
Spock logical@pon-farr
Vulcan, Undiscovered Country

Thu Nov 07 18:14:36 GMT 2002
Open letter to programmers everywhere
As an American, I naturally believe that anyone who is not an American should be enslaved to do our bidding, or otherwise mulched and used to fertilize our amber waves of grain. That said, I found this article to be very insightful, and it will no doubt prove useful for when we invade and conquer those godless commies, the Chinese, who are part of our fearless president's Axis of Evil.

If things go according to plan, Pakistan will also soon be named an Enemy of Freedom and will be annexed by the United States. I encourage all people who have traveled extensively to assemble intelligence reports similar to "A Programmer in China." These will help us gain the cooperation of local folk as we take them over. Thanks for your assistance.

P.S. You limeys are next.

Tony Testosteroni honkey@niggaplease.com
Chicago, Illinois

Thu Nov 07 18:39:18 GMT 2002
Oh, and..
France sucks too!
Gaylord Vokker apb3@earthlink.net
USA

Thu Nov 07 19:03:32 GMT 2002
Heathens Pagans and dirty dirty sluts
Can you all not just GET OVER IT? It was one man's journey through a foreign land. When someone writes something, the world is open to interpret it. If you interpret this story to be "the adventures of an arse hole" then that is your right. However, I can in turn interpret your reply as "the reply of a limp-wristed wanker who has so much time on his/her hands that they think writing a paragraph about a one page travelogue is a) constructive, b) worthwhile to anyone or c) the author gives a rat's arse." And please, people... keep the race wars to a minimum? Thanks.
Choad Master Lick@myballs.org
Horseshit, USA

Thu Nov 07 19:43:24 GMT 2002
funny!
Thanks for the rant.I laughed out loud several times Now I dont have to go to China. I can stay here and eat my regular chinese food and remain ignorant of the world outside the borders of my country. YAY.
monkeyhateclean
usa usa

Thu Nov 07 19:43:36 GMT 2002
RE: China is dirty
You stupid piece of shit! Egypt is part of Africa,which means you can't bomb Egypt second, then "save Africa for last" incase any missiles are left. For any people of the UK reading this, I don't blame you guys for thinking Americans are dumbasses. Look at our president George "Dubya" Bush. He's either an inbred freak, or a clone of his father, George Bush I. Gore's just as bad, and I hope someone pulls the plug on Cheney soon.
Rebecca Smith Rbsmith@yahoo.com
US of Friggin' A

Thu Nov 07 19:43:51 GMT 2002
Bow, subjects.
We don't need to impose the American culture on Europe, they pay us to export it. All they listen to is American music, they see American movies. The occasional foreign film is like watching a three year old try on daddy's tie. We only need to bomb everything south of russia and north of australia. Forget Africa, starvation, disease and tribal warfare are taking care of it.
Uncle Sam usa@usa.usa
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave

Thu Nov 07 19:55:50 GMT 2002
Close minded
You must be a very close minded individual,Were you spoiled as a kid.? Are you a person that thinks your better than anyone else?By ranting and raving are you trying to compinsate for a lack there of?
Ryan

Thu Nov 07 20:10:38 GMT 2002
There's one word for this whole thing...
Wow.
anon anon@anon.com
United States

Thu Nov 07 20:14:27 GMT 2002
this is retarded
I live in Hong Kong, have been to China, and can say with no doubt that this whole article and pseudodebate is retarded. This guy went to places I've been to, posted observations I'm too mature to post, and now people with no sense are losing their minds over it. He's not a racist, he's an idiot. And I don't think he's an honest idiot either. Somehow I doubt he found it so unappealing if he married a Chinese girl. He wants a little attention, wants to get a few laughs, wants to imply coolness and understanding by criticizing. I did this in junior high. Get over it. Hope this guy enoyed China more than he's letting on. If not, screw it.
Why am I typing this, anyway? i'm going back to enjoying my life in China...

emgee
Hong Kong

Thu Nov 07 21:30:25 GMT 2002
ASIA is a different world
I went to Malaysia twice. I never felt so frightened being an American. They love the tourism as it boosts the economy but the apparent lack of safety takes a lot to get used to. I mean, for every car on the road there was 20 mopeds or motorbikes. You had to go with the flow but it was crazy.

The lack of infrastructure was appalling when you consider that Kuala Lampur has the tallest buildings in the world but the country for the most part has open sewers, people shitting in the road, and beaches so polluted by the sewers and factories that the water is grey.

I was scared to death to eat the food but since I had my Hep A shots and my anti-diarrheal shots I was OK. Some of the food was scary looking but I didn't want to insult our hosts who were more than generous!

What was great too was that you could get a 1 hour massage for 6 bucks with a free handjob thrown in at the end. I declined as I did not know if the masseuse was male or female.

Fisting Foetus IM-NOT-GONNA-PACK-YOUR-FUDGE@fistyourmama.com
Oregon, US of A

Thu Nov 07 21:46:14 GMT 2002
WHO'S WHITE?
i didn't see where it said dino is white? who is to say he is a white pupremist! maby he is bla
fuko dinoflinstone@stonehenge.com
bloody hell, limie

Thu Nov 07 21:47:34 GMT 2002
What the...?
I'm American. I'm not racist. I don't want to blow things up. I apologize to all of you non-US citizens on behalf of the idiotic things that have been said in the name of America, and for our trigger happy president.
JD
LA, CA, USA

Thu Nov 07 22:17:10 GMT 2002
why the furore?
i find it hard to understand why people complain because he has made an observation about what he saw and experienced when he went on holiday, maybe he isn't right, maybe he is but either way they are his perceptions and as such should be respected and not pounced on because they could possibly be construed as racist by a minority who are overly conscious of being politically correct (and trying to get others to be politically correct).
i wonder how many complaints of racism would have been levelled at him if he had said the same things of glasgow. which incidentally is congested, smelly and serves substandard food. plus it is full of glasweigens, making it several times worse than china in my book.

jimbo bones barneybones@swirve.com
uk

Thu Nov 07 22:31:28 GMT 2002
nudge-nudge, wink-wink
when in China did you and you're wife...well you know, did you do it nudge-nudge wink-wink, say no more say no more...
joe ni8swimmer@yahoo.com
TN., U.S.

Thu Nov 07 22:40:45 GMT 2002
USA takes it in the ass just like China
Ive been to USA just like ive never been to China. And they are both full of ugly fat americans. Fat americans go to the toilet stick there genitals into holes for fat american children to suck and fuck. They are big mac pedophile types.

I was one time in asia and americans would get drunk(on 2 beers) and go to brothels where 5 year old girls and boys work. They would rub goose fat all over there disgusting bodies and sexually assault the children while listening to white trash music usa style.

with opinions as stupid and moronic as the americans have i am not suprised that everyone hates americans...bloody seppos.

George Bush george@in-the-ass.com
USA, US of Assholes

Thu Nov 07 22:59:24 GMT 2002
Let me get this straight...
...Scotty peed in my drink?!
James T. Kirk
Iowa, USA

Thu Nov 07 23:11:13 GMT 2002
NUKE PAKISTAN
we need to nuke pakistan now before it is too late...apparently they are going to take over the western world....before world conquest, you may want to try such daring feats as "civil law and order" or the ever popular "indoor plumbing". as far as converting everyone to islam: please do...i need to enroll myself into a religion that is a 12th century throwback. piss off.
PakKILL PAKKILLER@PAKISTANSUCKS.COM
guess asshole

Thu Nov 07 23:19:26 GMT 2002
Gwailo! You die now!
Okay, so you peopre have a plobrem with China, do you? You Amelicans make me want to balf. White man arways tlying to keep me down! Ret me terr you lound-eyes something... you store arr of the forrowing flom us: Spaghetti, ice cleam, spoons, and the unicoln! Fol the rove of Mike! The UNICOLN! Why? Why would you gwailo stear our beroved ki-rin? That a holse with a holn, you plicks, in case you didn't know. You make me velly angly! Ancestol's ghost yerring at me! Saying "Hey! What all dis clap?!" and I say "Ancestol! Stop forrowing me alound!" and Ancestol's ghost say "Go sclew yourserf! Go attack whitey!" and I say "ALGH! STOP HAUNTING ME ANCESTOL!" and he not go away untir I plomise to give you yankees what for! And so I have. Write in unspeakabre tellol, gwailo! Ah hah! Ahahahaha!

Rove,
David

David Rettelman top10@rateshow.com
NY, NY, Amelica

Thu Nov 07 23:23:16 GMT 2002
wow what an insightful article. here's what i got from it: 1)china is a country in asia 2)it is full of asian people. 3)the author IS NOT asian...holy fuckin shit. 4)pakistan is the festering stinking armpit of the indian subcontinent. thanks for sharing.
amazed1

Thu Nov 07 23:23:48 GMT 2002
Quit whining!
What is wrong with him saying he didn't like the things he saw in China? All of you who called him a racist need to stop and think, how many times have you been some place and said "man, this place sucks"? That doesn't make him a racist. That makes him someone who doesn't like the things he saw. He thought the food sucked, the people were rude, and the cities were filthy. And if you don't agree, that's YOUR opinion! Just like how everything in this article is HIS opinion! I thought Quebec was a beautiful place with really pushy people. Doesn't make me a Canadian hater. Just makes me not want to go to Quebec again. And he's not closed minded just because he didn't like another place. Him going in the first place makes him more open minded than a lot of other people.
Chris
Fairfax County, VA, USA

Thu Nov 07 23:42:21 GMT 2002
stay calm
I donot think this cub reporter is racist. He is just reporting culturual differences. Just because we are all one race - togeather genetically, does not mean we don't have different habits.
I think he is reporting in good faith. If a Chinese visited Long Island, they may feel quite at home with the manic energy.
Do people cry, "Coke or Smoke" on the streets in China, in front of the police?

Stop projecting...

Borschwin

borschwin forschwalker plastic_die@yahoo.com
Ohio, usa

Fri Nov 08 00:13:31 GMT 2002
You've got it all wrong...
I think what is shown here is nothing about any particuar country or race of people. What we are shown by all the comments in the article is that people in general are just stupid, and take things way too seriously. I'm not going to try and prove anyone wrong about anything that was said, because that would just perpetuate the stupidity here.
That's about it.

ME noneofyour@damnbusiness.com
Earth, Here

Fri Nov 08 00:23:30 GMT 2002
Social critique at its finest

I think GG GG@YAHOO.COM summed it up best when he said, "chinkbuster, hell like you. Go ASAP."

GG GG@Yahoo.com, kudos for your erudite observations.

david lopan david_lopan@hotmail.com
shanghai....surprise, Somewhere out there on the perimeter

Fri Nov 08 00:31:27 GMT 2002
I LIVE IN SPACE
GOATSECKS
Testy McTesticle TESTICLE?@what.com
SPACETOWN, SPACECOUNTRY

Fri Nov 08 00:39:35 GMT 2002
ahahahaha
i thought this article was excellent... and not the least bit racist... the end
Mr. Cattoir wazrspank@aol.com
Here, USA

Fri Nov 08 01:14:06 GMT 2002
Papal Bull XiXX
We hereby call down a plague upon every last one of you meat-bag lovers. Especially you that belong to the great mass of "THEM".
Only when everyone takes off their various forms of shoes will we be able to all become "US".

Kudos on the straight talk, and to all you gene-ee-asses that get bent by it... we have a prepared statement,
"PPHZZZZZZTTTTHHHSSSSZZZZZ !!!"

PS can we have my Schechwan Chikky with only A LITTLE RAT???

Pope Fuzzy, divinely appointed pope of Texas

Pope of Texas blather@honkydiatribesRUs.com
Murca, Hew Hess o Hay

Fri Nov 08 01:29:16 GMT 2002
No Cap'n
It was Spock who peed in yer drink, and I'm not beeiming you up until you put that phaser down.
Scotty scotty@enterprise.com
USSEnterprise, Orbit

Fri Nov 08 01:33:02 GMT 2002
Here's to you, Dino
Dino, I enjoyed your writing and wish you a blessed marriage with your Chinese wife. Just ignore the fools who have nothing constructive to say; just being them is punishment enough. On the other hand, living well and loving well is the best revenge, so to speak. I know lots of international marriages, including my own (Korean and American), and while it can't be denied that international and intercultural marriages have their own special challenges, they have their own special rewards too. Make yours work and reap the rewards thereof.
cdwitmer cdwitmer@spamcop.net
Tokyo, Japan

Fri Nov 08 03:26:40 GMT 2002
I second that motion
Well, it's clear the author has actually been to China, or at least does a good job of faking it. His comments about the traffic are right on, if you want to criticize him, go there first and then say with a straight face that he isn't being completely truthful. As for the food, once again, pretty much spot on. The food is good, generally, certainly better than UK food, but tends to be very bony and does not generally appeal to western tastes.

As for the women, well I'm dating a Korean right now, but I'd have to say that the southern chinese are nowhere near as hot as the northern chinese. In the same way the New Yorkers are generally not as hot as the Wisconsonites. It's just a more or less accepted fact.


Nope, not my real email address, get over it.



Seether webmaster@now.org
someplace, USA

Fri Nov 08 03:33:53 GMT 2002
well done
Makes you wonder how China is the most over-populated country in the world, don't it? Its amazing they havent thinned out the population a bit by their food handling and traffic habits. I look forward to some more world travel exposes.
nunyabidness
usa

Fri Nov 08 06:21:10 GMT 2002
Sounds like Mexico City
The exact same climate exists in the majority of Mexican cities. Traffic laws are non exsistant.
Mexican food is NOT the same as in the states. People are nice. Beware of thieves, pickpockets,
lack of police. The ATMS do work, plus credit cards.

Dave
Dallas, USA

Fri Nov 08 07:28:39 GMT 2002
Scotty...you peed in my drink.
That's not the way Spock tells it, you kilt-wearing bastard! I THOUGHT my synthale tasted a little too much like scotch that night. Mister, I've got half a mind to bust you down to ensign, but you're the best damned engineer and starfleet, so I'm willing to let bygones be bygones. Just beam me up, and we'll have a nice, long chat. Pay no mind to the fact that Spock is holding an aluminum baseball bat and a container of "Anal Lube".
James T. Kirk
Iowa, USA

Fri Nov 08 07:48:56 GMT 2002
Big American Penis.
That right crackah boi!
I dun been off over there an seen it, nasty as a $2 crak hoes ass.
I charged em to look at my big ol johnson while I's over there.
Them chineese sho do like fondlin muh johnson...yassuh dey do!
I doan thank he wuz bein no damn racist, hell he aint said nuthin about N.A.S.C.A.R. at all far as I know, just how damn nasty it is over in them damn fever swamps of de orient.
Ya'll tell em Leroy said them chineeses kin kiss my black ass!

Dick Dick@head.net
TEXAS, TEXAS

Fri Nov 08 07:51:38 GMT 2002
Drive down singleton Dave!
Mexico?
Hell, west Dallas will do.

DICK Dick@head.com
TEXAS, TEXAS

Fri Nov 08 07:54:19 GMT 2002
Huh???
Oookkk... and why again is Dino a racist? Because he points out cultural differences, and seems to like his country better? Does the fact that I have no urge to go to, say, Spain, France, or South Africa anti-spanish, anti-french, and anti-south africian? Ahhh.. the wonders of the internet, Open Mouth, Insert Foot, Echo Internationally...

Religion...
(Note: Any spelling errors are due to a corrupted TCP/IP packet... that's my story and I'm stiking to it...)

Relgion religion@kidsloveguns.com

Fri Nov 08 08:30:52 GMT 2002
Love Hong Kong, dig the Chinese
I used to go to Hong Kong frequently, and loved the place. I thought the food was great,and found the Chinese fundamentally decent people who are generally easy to get along with. I ran into no more than the usual amount of crooks, scumbags and low lifes you would expect anywhere.

The women didn't strike me as too good looking (side note--women in Taiwan are SUPER!) until I met a very special Hong Kong Chinese lady. Now my memories of Hong Kong and her tend to run together.


Also, I find it extremely hard to beleive the person who wrote about Malaysia has even been there. Even when I went there for my first time 20 years ago, Kuala Lampur, though a sleepy ex-colonial city was clean and very well kept up. The people were very friendly, and I had a blast.Since then I have been back two times, and though it was considerablely modernized (great shopping!!) it was as clean as ever, and the people were as kind and as friendly as before. I've traveled all over Malaysia and found it to be one of the nicest countries not just in Asia, but in the entire world.

China is much rougher around the edges than either Hong Kong or Malaysia, but this is the way it is.

All I can say is that I've been having a really great life living in Asia.

Wang Chung WangChung@everbodyhasto.com
Tokyo, Japan

Fri Nov 08 09:29:52 GMT 2002
my two cents
just got back from china and the traffic has to be seen to be believed - our guide even joked that it was their version of population control - funny until we saw a pedestrian get (almost certainly) killed - enjoyed the article but have been amazed that in 2002 people still toss around the term racist so easily - as my younger sister says that is so 1993 ! - my response is to the fool (yes you are - admit it)from australia who takes the stance that dino is racist becuase that is what she got out of the article and her opinion, feelings, response etc. rule the day - that she can so blithely ignore the concepts of humor, context or proportionality speaks volumes - what absolute unmitigated rubbish - under such a guiding philosophy i guess we should all cover ourselves with bubble wrap and never venture forth in any way, shape or form - honsestly i am amazed anyone that dumb or young can even turn a computer on - this is the kind of nonsense that was discredited long ago - cheers to dino for posting an article different from the norm and greeting to all fellow travellers ( yes yes i get the communist/McCarthy/orwell refernence - it's a joke) oh and i found quebec - well montreal at least - to be full of pushy people too but vancouver was amazing so i guess i'm not anti-canadian - best of all in recent travels was paris so here is one american that likes the french.....though they can't drive either
jen whatever@whatever.com
nyc, excited states of america

Fri Nov 08 12:56:26 GMT 2002
Damn Buncha Politically Correct Whiners
Geez what a bunch of whiner pussies.

You don't like my fat, white, American ass? That's cool. Doesn't make you a racist. Just means you don't like my fat, white American ass. I can live with it.

Race......the obvious difference. Get a grip, whiney world.

Mike mlkdh@yah.com
World

Fri Nov 08 15:59:20 GMT 2002
LOL, you guys are so silly
I can't believe the insane reactionary response to this article. Ease up, folks. All he did was tell the story the way he experienced it. He doesn't like the food or the traffic. So what? You're not a racist just because you don't like every single thing about another culture.

There was nothing evil or racist or nasty in the entire article. It was just a string of opinions. He also had lots of _good_ things to say about the beer, internet cafes and other little details. Did your eyes just slide right over that or what?

SpaceAce

SpaceAce
USA

Fri Nov 08 19:40:52 GMT 2002
Dont like em'either!!
Coming from an American city that has had more racial tension than most I find his words hardly slanderous! In fact I actually liked what he had to say. It makes me wonder about all the sad little me's out there that were so hurt by his personal commentary. I am personally going through a house war with one of them stinky Chinese vermin and will hang on to every word that is said aginst a country that is so fucking sexist, backwards and archaic that they throw away their female babies every day to be found constantly in the city dump.
This man is so unbelievably vile that I can only look to his country and culture for answers. He is such a WANG!!!! When they are left with only men in their country because they have fucked up views of women and $ and they have thrown all the women out to die then I will join hands with all the other racists in unity against them CHINKS!!!!!! Nuff Said!!

MAD evenmadder@pissed.com
CHICAGO, United States

Fri Nov 08 19:49:12 GMT 2002
Nice article
I enjoyed reading the article; some of the reponses were very funny, some were nonsensical dribblings and the rest were PC whinings from people who think that being sensitive will save the world. Riiight.
Bigotry and PC are both for idiots; lean too far either side, and you'll fall flat on your ass. This article was just right far as I'm concerned. And that's all that matters for me cos I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else thinks :) Ahhh, it's great being selfish.

Adam adam@NOshallimusCRAP.com
Greater bloody London, UK

Sat Nov 09 00:32:28 GMT 2002
Communists need to eat better breakfast
personally, i believe in Pancakes for Pinkos.

http://pancakesforpinkos.com

Pinko

Sat Nov 09 00:43:32 GMT 2002
Brilliant
Hey, wife and me just laughed our ass off. Funny stuff and very well written.

Screw these politically correct tarts making their pc comments to you. That was funny.

Attila na
America

Sat Nov 09 04:11:25 GMT 2002
Message from your God
I AM PISSED OFF!

Listen all you puny insignificant carbon-based flickers in time: You are missing the point! (as you have consistently done since your knuckles were dragging on the ground). I created you in various colours and hues and shapes to prevent BOREDOM to set in. My first experiments involved unicolour beings that were sexless; as I suspected, they all got along but soon ran out of things to talk about and went silent...with nothing to motivate them, they stopped doing, and collapsed in silent heaps...Not a peep heard in thousands of years. How boring for me!

So for the next batch (you snivelling idiots) I gave you motivation (death, sex and need for food) and gave you colour in the hope that you'd appreciate the diversity...but you have missed the point! (I hate repeating myself!)

So to punish you I am unleashing unto you the likes of George Dubbya Bush, bland Chinese food, Boy Bands, traffic snarls, emetic curries, various assorted terrorists, pushy Quebecois, poutine, carcinogenic french fries, the oxymoron of English cuisine, Saddam Hussein, and my latest assault on you ingrate souls: The Ketchup Song.

It's gotten so bad I am starting to doubt my own divinity; I mean, maybe, possibly, there is a small probability that I f*cked up in creating you all...

So smarten up because I've just about had it with idiotic diatribes (This thread being archetypal!) and I'm about to head to my lab to ready the next batch...

So if you all think the North Koreans are a worry...keep at it, and soon you'll have NOTHING to worry about...

You have been warned...DIRECTLY this time! You morons keep kiiling the prophets I send you!

GOD

GOD allpowerful@allknowing.com
Heaven

Sat Nov 09 08:20:10 GMT 2002
Previous post
Not that I should apologize to anyone but myself; however, in my infinite benevolence, I will comment on the typos and grammatical structural glitches in my previous posting. These are artifacts arising from my divine and perfect interaction with one of your wireless keyboards.

Me-Damn it! To get it right, do I have to come down and do everything myself?

GOD allpowerful@allknowing.com
Heaven

Sat Nov 09 09:19:23 GMT 2002
Let's face facts, shall we?
The American manufactures of condoms discovered that sales of their products were quite poor in Asian nations, because they were "too big" for the local populations.

That explains many things in this article.


Truth eggs@ackley
Dry Land, USA

Sat Nov 09 21:13:57 GMT 2002
The Dog's Bollocks
Pakistan is Monica Lewinsky.....without the underpants!
Hassie deariedearieme@hoptopchop.pop
Punjab, India

Sun Nov 10 10:12:07 GMT 2002
I've been there. You're right.
Take it from me. I saw what you describe, first hand and I found the trip to be quite stressful, though I think that readers should understand that in between eating god-only-knows what type of meat that was, there are cultural sites, such as the terracotta warriors of Xian, that make the trip an interesting experience.
If you want polite, ordered civilization, stay in the West. If you have more exotic tastes, check out the East.

joe n/a
n/a, U.S.

Sun Nov 10 22:24:26 GMT 2002
I just laughed so hard...
I just laughed so hard my colostomy bag began to boil. Now the entire room is covered in a mixture of bile and corn. You bastard!
Captain Spanky
B.C., canada

Mon Nov 11 01:58:49 GMT 2002
Ho ho ho
Very nice description. I just lost my passport to a gang of 6 pickpockets in Shenzhen. This article gives me sth to laugh about.
Anonymous
China

Mon Nov 11 05:02:06 GMT 2002
This story is SO right on...
I use to travel to China, HK, and Taiwan, not to mention Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand. The driving parts are particularly accurate, as is the food - the night market in Taipei had some disgusting foodstuffs. Bathroom facilities - let's just say that the worst US bathrooms are better than what's considered acceptable there...I've seen toilets that not only have no paper, they don't ever flush - picture 50 factory workers using the same toilet w/out flushing - YIKES! Another trashy thing was the barber shops there - unlike barber shops here, they also provide sex w/ your haircut. The sex trade in asia in general is accepted as normal and a part of doing business; I went to a couple of business meetings with a group of coworkers, and there were prostitutes at the meeting, supplied by our vendor. I wanted to wipe every surface I touched with an antibiotic cloth. Yuck.

My mom's from Shanghai, but she lived there over 50 years ago when it was divided up into concessions (she lived in the French concession, the Chinese weren't allowed in the English concession). She went there recently and absolutely HATED it; she said it had all gone to pot. It was very disappointing to her.

Thanx for the laughs.

Kabloozie
California, USA

Mon Nov 11 06:28:17 GMT 2002
Oh, and by the way
One more story that I think sums up what little human life is worth in China...

I was being driven to a factory somewhere in the southern region of China when, low and behold, there was an accident that had taken place moments before we arrived. A woman was hit (not a surprise, as there were no sidewalks, nor much of a shoulder at the side of the road to walk on, and traffic whizzing w/in inches of the pedestians and cyclists). It was serious, by the looks of it. I asked the driver if we should call someone, but of course he just brushed me off. People were stopping to look, but not much else. Five or six hours later on our return trip, the poor woman's body was STILL THERE!!! No one had picked her up, or anything. I was horrified. No one gave a sh*t. For all I know, that body is still there - I wouldn't be surprised.

Kabloozie
California, USA

Mon Nov 11 06:43:10 GMT 2002
My my my....
First of all, I found a link to this particular page and am unaware of what this site is all about at the moment, but I feel the need to comment...
I don't believe the author is racist. Also I have to agree with someone I believes name was JY or something rather who was chinese. He said that Chinese are some of the most prejudiced people around although I believe he meant racist. My boyfriend is chinese and is from asia living here now while he studies and he is more racist than anyone I know. I love him dearly so I just let it go, but he always has some comment like "I hate Tawainese", "They are from Singapore, they suck" and other such comments. So for the author being racist there is no such way to prove that from that article. He never said he hated Chinese. He never said anything about disliking asians, whites, blacks, indians, etc....So....yeah.

Sarah
USA

Mon Nov 11 07:56:55 GMT 2002
Not Racist
I've read a lot of posts of people calling the author racist. That is untrue.
The comedy of the piece has to do with the narrator hating everything except what he's comfortable with (usually the Internet). To isolate his dislikes to racism is in itself racist. It is an unnecessary, nitpicky focus one one aspect of the comedy, ignorantly ignoring the full light hearted spectrum of the piece.
That is, it's easier to enjoy the perspectives of a narrator who we know is going to dislike just about everything. We can enjoy the embelishments he makes to reality. But to label a narrator as racist is to make him a tyrant against a specific, innocent enemy. That makes liking the narrator, and enjoying the piece more difficult. It's also an ignorant, bigoted misunderstanding. Focusing on race, is racist.

Paul pennywise@hotmail.com
KY, USA

Mon Nov 11 14:05:56 GMT 2002
One man's perspective
Having been to China recently on a tour, I agreed with Dino about the traffic situation. There are quite a bit of difference amony various big cities in China with respect of traffic control. Shanghai is very fine. But, come to think of it. Some rural cities in US do not have any kind of traffic control either, except there are less people walking on the street though. In New York, people just walk across street regardless of green or red lights. New Yorkers love to walk in the middle of street too. In Paris, well it has to be a little more civilized but ... In Rome, ... On my way back from China, we dropped by Tokyo, Japan. We stayed in Ginza area but we also encountered some shit holes in the heart of Ginza. It is in a very modern Toy store right at the heart of Ginza. The shit holes are very clean with flushing water. We wonder if the East Asian prefer shit holes better. After all, toilets are western invention. Foods in China. I got sick in eating those so called Chinese food during my first day there. So sick that I couldn't even dare to eat anymore. Luckily, our tour guide bought me some fresh baked food. It actually tasted real good. Dino is not a racist, IMHO. He just told what he thought. How about dogs. We have not seen any place selling dogs for food. We requested earnestly to our tour guide to bring us to one of those shops but he told us only certain places in China sell dogs for food. Well, we saw a lot of dogs eating place in Korea. They are everywhere. Well, I threw up when I saw a sheep head in Egypt too.
dinomano dmano@hotmail.com
San Francisoco, USA

Mon Nov 11 16:02:20 GMT 2002
hey Pakistani guy
"Good like till we invade England and China and convert you all into muslims."

bring it on motherfucker!!! we fuck you up!!!!!

Irish bloke
Ireland, Europe

Mon Nov 11 19:44:51 GMT 2002
Attention Irishman!
Wellity, wellity, wellity... lookee at who thinks he be better'n a paki! Lissen, pally, me mates an' me been discussin' it, and 'tis plain as old McGinty's potato that you bin asking for it fer awhile. Next time yez come down t'the pub, we be whackin' of yous nuts wid our shillelieghs! Me and the Fianna be openin' up th' whoop-arse on yez. And I KNOWS it were you what humped Sean Flannigan when yez were drinking at the Old Dog's Tool pub last St. Patrick's Day! Shame on yez, you blatherscite!

P.S. It would take 100 of you to equal 1 Scotsman in a fair fight...assuming we could find any of you micks willing to fight fair. Top o' the mornin'!

Fionn MacCumal legend@irelend.com
A small villiage where County Cork now stands., Ireland

Mon Nov 11 22:05:22 GMT 2002
lmao
im chinese and i think asian girls are easy and ugly. I like to screw white girls. And 80% of china is a rural piece of crap. sorry i just have to speak the truth. But guess what? We still have nukes. so you dirty paki's stfu and get your religious problems solved before launching your half ranged nukes when you still eat with your hands.

look, how do we solve racism in this world? Everyone just keep screwing each other till everyone's the same color. you undetsand? Hell, my girlfriend is 4 different nationalities. dont make me kick your ass even tho im a skinny asian who might get beaten but ill still break your nose first.

chinaman whatever@whatever.com
new york city, usa

Wed Nov 13 08:23:35 GMT 2002
No see dog
I no see dog! Next time get bigger dog! Cousins coming over for dinner.
Korean
Korea

Wed Nov 13 14:32:42 GMT 2002


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